What do you think of the new Cyn.in v3? Do share your likes, dislikes about the new version here, it helps us in building a better product.

Paul S — Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:18:47 +0000

Could you let me know how (if you remember)? I've done the same. I can get into Zope, but it looks Double Dutch to me.

What do you think of the new Cyn.in v3? Do share your likes, dislikes about the new version here, it helps us in building a better product.

Romasha Roy Choudhury — Thu, 23 Sep 2010 10:18:47 +0000

Dhiraj Gupta — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 23:24:05 +0000

Hmm... perhaps we'll include these things the next time there's some work going into the Comments area. Thanks for the feedback, we're always listening, and yes, it *always* helps. :)
Another discussion about comments might potentially also be of interest to you, vinnysibbs: http://www.cynapse.com/comm[…]sily-editable-and-deletable

Darren Vincent — Fri, 05 Feb 2010 18:55:52 +0000

Thanks so much for listening :) ... does wonders for our faith in your commitment as a tea, and our own confidence at switching to cynin as our preferred collaboration software.
I like each of your ideas a lot. Subtly highlighting newer comments is in nested view would be very good.
In flat view a single button to toggle between ascending / descending is perfect, especially if the option chosen could be remembered.

Dhiraj Gupta — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 21:35:20 +0000

Not currently, no. We've actually considered this one quite a bit. Nesting of comments comes in the way of making this a feasible reality. I mean, yeah, we can easily lay out comments in descending date order. But for heavily nested comments, this would offer little to no context as to how the discussion is progressing.

A better idea would perhaps be to highlight newer comments in some way, like adjusting the background color, to achieve the same purpose, you'd get to come to know which comments were new, without disrupting the flow of the user who visited the discussion thread for the first time.

We already have "Nested" and "Flat" views though, and perhaps we could work on flipping the order of comments in the flat view, or maybe further offer a sub-row of buttons in that view to toggle between ascending and descending.

Thoughts?

Darren Vincent — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:57:16 +0000

Is it possible to have discussions displaying with the newest comments appearing at the top of the stream? both in the site and desktop client. If the discussion is quite long you find you need to keep scrolling down every time a new message arrives which can be a little irritating. A choice of newest first / oldest first set on a board basis would be the ideal IMHO.

And is there a way to look at all the tags so they can be edited or removed from the master list en mass? ...We have lots of different spellings from users for the same word tag ...as a for instance for why it'd be useful. A way to bulk change tags would be useful if it were added to the contents windows.

Darren Vincent — Thu, 04 Feb 2010 00:32:01 +0000

Cancel the above, I got it back by the zope admin

Darren Vincent — Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:49:02 +0000

Are there any instructions anywhere for how to re-instate the recycle bin after stupidly deleting it please?

Richard Stewart — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 13:24:36 +0000

There is another thread about a Manage > Content error. The 3.0.4 ISO package has a mistake in it that causes this error. The original discussion was started by wnewland early last week. The upgrade to 3.0.5 is supposed to fix it. The upgrade is supposed to be out soon (today?).

tung — Tue, 10 Nov 2009 08:19:52 +0000

I got the same problem. When I want to manage sub-space, I open Manage Space/Content and see that kind of error, all the time.
Can anyone tell me what it is and what to do?
Thank you.

Doug — Mon, 09 Nov 2009 01:04:02 +0000

I to am receiving an error whenever I go to any folder_contents of any directory. Here's the error:

Traceback (innermost last):
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 119, in publish
  Module ZPublisher.mapply, line 88, in mapply
  Module ZPublisher.Publish, line 42, in call_object
  Module Products.Five.browser.metaconfigure, line 417, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 313, in __call__
  Module Shared.DC.Scripts.Bindings, line 350, in _bindAndExec
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplateFile, line 129, in _exec
  Module Products.CacheSetup.patch_cmf, line 74, in PT_pt_render
  Module Products.CacheSetup.patch_utils, line 9, in call_pattern
  Module Products.PageTemplates.PageTemplate, line 98, in pt_render
  Module zope.pagetemplate.pagetemplate, line 117, in pt_render
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 271, in __call__
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 891, in do_useMacro
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 536, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 521, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 516, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 957, in do_defineSlot
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 536, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 521, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 516, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 949, in do_defineSlot
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 534, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 516, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 745, in do_insertStructure_tal
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 223, in evaluateStructure
  Module zope.tales.tales, line 696, in evaluate
   - URL: index
   - Line 24, Column 8
   - Expression: <PathExpr standard:'view/contents_table'>
   - Names:
      {'container': <RecycleBin at /cynin/recyclebin>,
       'context': <RecycleBin at /cynin/recyclebin>,
       'default': <object object at 0xb7cfb528>,
       'here': <RecycleBin at /cynin/recyclebin>,
       'loop': {},
       'nothing': None,
       'options': {'args': (<Products.Five.metaclass.SimpleViewClass from /home/cynin/buildout/src/ubify.cyninv2theme/ubify/cyninv2theme/browser/foldercontents.pt object at 0x12226c0c>,)},
       'repeat': <Products.PageTemplates.Expressions.SafeMapping object at 0x1241a62c>,
       'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=http://10.255.140.17/recyclebin/folder_contents>,
       'root': <Application at >,
       'template': <ImplicitAcquirerWrapper object at 0x1266564c>,
       'traverse_subpath': [],
       'user': <PloneUser 'adp_doug'>,
       'view': <Products.Five.metaclass.SimpleViewClass from /home/cynin/buildout/src/ubify.cyninv2theme/ubify/cyninv2theme/browser/foldercontents.pt object at 0x12226c0c>,
       'views': <zope.app.pagetemplate.viewpagetemplatefile.ViewMapper object at 0x1266cc6c>}
  Module zope.tales.expressions, line 217, in __call__
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 163, in _eval
  Module Products.PageTemplates.Expressions, line 125, in render
  Module ubify.cyninv2theme.browser.foldercontents, line 14, in contents_table
  Module plone.app.content.browser.foldercontents, line 98, in render
  Module zope.app.pagetemplate.viewpagetemplatefile, line 83, in __call__
  Module zope.app.pagetemplate.viewpagetemplatefile, line 51, in __call__
  Module zope.pagetemplate.pagetemplate, line 117, in pt_render
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 271, in __call__
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 861, in do_defineMacro
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 536, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 521, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 516, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 855, in do_condition
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 855, in do_condition
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 536, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 521, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 516, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 824, in do_loop_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 536, in do_optTag_tal
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 521, in do_optTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 516, in no_tag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 346, in interpret
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 408, in do_startTag
  Module zope.tal.talinterpreter, line 485, in attrAction_tal
  Module zope.tales.tales, line 704, in evaluateText
  Module zope.tales.tales, line 696, in evaluate
   - URL: /home/cynin/buildout/src/ubify.cyninv2theme/ubify/cyninv2theme/browser/cynintable.pt
   - Line 89, Column 18
   - Expression: <StringExpr u'${item/obj_type}: ${item/description}'>
   - Names:
      {'args': (),
       'context': None,
       'default': <object object at 0xb7cfb528>,
       'loop': {},
       'nothing': None,
       'options': {},
       'repeat': {},
       'request': <HTTPRequest, URL=http://10.255.140.17/recyclebin/folder_contents>,
       'template': <zope.app.pagetemplate.viewpagetemplatefile.ViewPageTemplateFile object at 0xcdb262c>,
       'usage': <zope.pagetemplate.pagetemplate.TemplateUsage object at 0x12481a8c>,
       'view': <ubify.cyninv2theme.browser.foldercontents.CyninTable object at 0x1267880c>,
       'views': <zope.app.pagetemplate.viewpagetemplatefile.ViewMapper object at 0x10a0770c>}
  Module Products.CMFPlone.patches.unicodehacks, line 36, in new__call__
  Module zope.tales.expressions, line 217, in __call__
  Module zope.tales.expressions, line 194, in _eval
  Module zope.tales.expressions, line 124, in _eval
  Module zope.app.pagetemplate.engine, line 65, in __call__
KeyError: 'description'

Dhiraj Gupta — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:20:14 +0000

Re: Backup. Need to again add more details on setting this up in the Admin guide. Expect this soon as well. Backup is actually built internally into Cyn.in now, and is available to all editions (unlike earlier in 2.x), you just have to set up a cron task to run daily in Webmin to do this. With the default setup, Cyn.in will auto-maintain (and rotate) the last 10 backups. You can even set it up to backup out to a mounted network shared folder, and get your backups directly on your central backup facility if you wish.

Webmin is available on Cyn.in CE at https://<cyn.in server IP address OR hostname>:10000
Confirm the exception to the self signed HTTPS certificate that your browser will show you and login with the root user you setup during install.
Go to .... System setup (I can't recall the screen name exactly, will look it up) and scheduled tasks.
In that set up a daily task to run at whatever time you wish and run this command in it:
/home/cynin/buildout/bin/snapshotbackup
to get a full snapshot backup in the /home/cynin/buildout/buildout/var/snapshotbackups folder. You can easily replace this folder with a mounted one, if you want to have off-server backup.

Dhiraj Gupta — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 20:05:35 +0000

Re: The error you were seeing, it's way more helpful if you can paste the error output, we can actually usually make some sense out of the error that's appearing. So, the next time you encounter an error message, if you paste the full output of the error into a new Discussion post, with what you did that caused it, we'll normally be able to help you out, here.

Re: Setting up of the permissions on the Home screen, and all users adding content to it by default:
Like Apurva was saying above, it's actually been *designed* to be that way. All content from Spaces below will any way aggregate upwards and be visible to users who can see it. The idea is that you can store content any where you want, and still have it immediately available directly from the Home screen. That said, you can easily turn it off, with the Sharing tab. You need to:
1. Turn off Inherit permissions from above checkbox
2. Add whatever groups (or users, but groups are recommended) with whatever permissions you want them to have:

Can Add means that they can add and edit new content in the area
Can Edit allows them to edit the Space itself and delegate permissions further
Can View means that users will only get to view content that's in the "Published to Readers" state, the default for content is the "Published to Contributors" state which only allows people with the Can Add permission to be able to view and edit it.
Can Review is for the Reviewed content workflow which requires content to go through an approver before it gets published.

For the Sharing tab, it appears deceptively over-simplified. Not so, in actuality. You can achieve most security concerns quite nicely with it. I just had a look at the page we have about this in the Administration guide, ( http://www.cynapse.com/[…]/manage-spaces ) and it definitely looks like we need to add more detail to it. I'll task someone to get this done.

Dhiraj Gupta — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 19:53:18 +0000

Ah yes. Deleting the Recycle Bin, the classic mistake. Not easily reversible too! One has to do a set of things in the ZMI interface to get it back. The Recycle Bin is not really supposed to show the Delete link in the action menu, will look at fixing that soon. I've added a new issue for that: http://odn.cynapse.com/issues/1081
Other pending (and currently unscheduled) features for Recycle Bin:
http://odn.cynapse.com/issues/623
http://odn.cynapse.com/issues/622
http://odn.cynapse.com/issues/349
http://odn.cynapse.com/issues/341

Feature #341 is for the Empty Recycle Bin functionality you were looking for, this hasn't been done yet. The way to empty it is as follows:
1. Go to Recycle Bin
2. Hit the Contents tab, you'll land in bulk management view.
3. Scroll to the bottom, click the Select All link.
4. If you have more items than can fit in the page, a new link will appear for selecting all items in the folder, this will select all items across all pages.
5. Hit Delete, and poof, all items in the Recycle Bin are no longer in existence. Warning: There's no confirmation for delete on the bulk management screen.

James Kimble — Tue, 03 Nov 2009 18:22:47 +0000

Re: Deleting the Recyle Bin. I Clicked on the navigation item and with the list of files present / clicked Manage (? / Top right menu) then Delete. I thought maybe it would empty the Recycle Bin and the text message just hadn't been modified from "are you sure you want to delete x" to "are you sure you want to empty x" Nope. Completely removed it from the left-hand Administration menu. So, I hoped that it might be contextual (based on items being available in the Recycle Bin) tested it - and that's not the case. So I successfully removed the primary admin tools - whoopsie.

As for the Error I encountered, it existed prior to the deletion of the Recycle Bin and was present across all created Spaces. I've since dusted the machine for reinstallation. I'll see if I can replicate it and post here.